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Poster:princessrugger
Date:2008-02-08 17:16
Subject:it's ok, i'm here
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hi everyone. from my beige perspective, i just wanted to let y'all know that as someone who is half white and half arab, i am living breathing proof that racism is over and done with. yayz! however, i do have some questions for the community. i've been reading here for 14 seconds and don't see the answers, so please don't be pc gypsy bitches or anything if i say something wrong. i'm racially ambiguous, but i've been thinking about applying self-tanner so i can better blend in with mexicans without alerting them to my presence. on the off chance that they sniff out my pristine vagina and can't control their lust, can you teach me how to say "please don't rape me, dangerous brown man! i understand you! i'm a feminist!" in spanish/farsi/tagalog? i don't want to blow my cover. if this post is in any way problematic, please alert me in quiet soothing tones while playing enya in the background and gently applying warmed stones to my pressure points. thanks!

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Poster:lizsybarite
Date:2008-02-07 15:51
Subject:From my white perspective...
Security:Public
Mood: white, now w/perspective!

...I'd like to know if I can be anti-racist. Even though I'm afraid of the brown folk on the street because of all those articles I've read (well, mostly watched on reliable, balanced news channels). But!!! I'm feminist and I have a vagina ANNNND I'm married to someone who has one too so I think I qualify for antiracism. Because I know a lot about oppression from ***personal experience*** and wouldn't oppress anyone unless they were being oppressive to someone else who is oppressed. Hang on, is there a hyphen in antiracist or no? (I don't feel like looking it up.)

Or, wait... are all of you, like, anti-anti-racist? If this isn't a safe space for me to grow and learn at your expense, just say the word. But think about the opportunity you'd miss to learn and grow a little yourselves. Shouldn't you set an EXAMPLE? I'm HERE; doesn't that count for something?

Also, please post more in this community so I learn something automatically every time I refresh my friends' list, without having to do, you know, research. Research makes me sleepy.

Anyway, thx. Free Mumia!

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Poster:sparkle_shortz
Date:2006-04-02 18:11
Subject:anti-racist FAQ project in debunkingwhite
Security:Public

Hi all, I'm a mod of debunkingwhite and have just posted about a project the mods have long wanted to get together, an anti-racist FAQ. I've posted there a sample FAQ originally created for HipMama, and am soliciting suggestions for questions ours should address.

If you're not a member of debunkingwhite but want to suggest questions, feel free to e-mail me at sparkle.shortz at gmail. Please also feel free to spread the word in relevant communities. I am x-posting here, in my journal, and in glbtqawp, sex_and_race and pocnexus to start off. Thanks much!

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Poster:jillbertini
Date:2006-01-12 08:36
Subject:Freakonomics
Security:Public

Have any of you read Freakonomics? I just finished it, and I can't put my finger on it, but there are some things that really bothered me. The most specific things I can think of is how he talks about the likelihood that certain people will grow up to be criminals, rather than saying they are more likely to commit crimes. He also conflates race and class, basically talking about black people and white people, rather than poor people and rich people. And in the final chapter, there's this entire thing about names that just doesn't make any sense to me.

Thoughts?

x-posted to self

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Poster:lizsybarite
Date:2006-01-03 14:59
Subject:NYRs for Honkies
Security:Public
Mood:solicitous

Happy New Year, navel-gazers (and those who love and/or tolerate us)! Out of curiosity and ennui I am soliciting suggestions for New Year's Resolutions, honky-style. Mine include actually reading a bunch of the books on my reading list, but I'd bet you all could come up with something more compelling/amusing/snarky/righteous. Go!

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Poster:taxishoes
Date:2005-11-21 22:36
Subject:"wigger"
Security:Public

Is this a really offensive word?

What is the appropriate response to seeing a young, white-appearing male in hip-hop style clothing, wearing headphones and rapping along to a CD, pronouncing everything in a perfect simulation of ebonics?

Is it wrong to assume that this dude is white? (He looked really, really white, folks.)

Would it be wrong to tell him, "You're white! You look like an idiot"?

Is this different from the disgust aimed at some black people by other black people, when they say, "You act too white"?

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Poster:goodbadgirl
Date:2005-09-07 14:05
Subject:X-Posted - From kickasphalt's Journal -Re-posted with Permission
Security:Public

as ragan so adeptly pointed out, the aforementioned should be products that are suitable for black hair and skin. i thought i'd offer up a list of brands/products to make it easier for you non African-American angels to help. you can refer to Sally Beauty Supply to see most of the products i'm talking about. i didn't link to everything because it would take too long. you can poke around just to see what the products look like.

Read more...Collapse )

Thank you kickasphalt for taking the time to compile this.

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Poster:jillbertini
Date:2005-08-12 11:33
Subject:Cat and Girl
Security:Public

For those of you unfamiliar with Cat and Girl I highly recommend today's which addresses socio-economic class.

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Poster:dirtywhiteboi
Date:2005-08-08 08:46
Subject:Since its been quiet and all....
Security:Public

http://www.hooverdigest.org/052/dsouza.html

And I thought this particularly pertinant..."Calhoun’s point is that the South had conferred on all whites a kind of aristocracy of birth, so that even the most wretched and degenerate white man was determined in advance to be better and more socially elevated than the most intelligent and capable black man. That’s why the poor whites fought—to protect that privilege."

dirt

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Poster:seaya
Date:2005-07-14 12:09
Subject:Non-US Centric Readings
Security:Public
Mood: curious

So, I have a friend who has a misconception about the definition of racism, only she's from the UK, and I am not entirely certain that Peggy McIntosh's list is something that will be effective because it's an American list of stuff.

Does anyone know a good reading about white privelege that's either UK focused or internationally focused?

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Poster:sideband
Date:2005-06-30 18:19
Subject:Thinking...
Security:Public

A few months ago I went on Hiatus, trying to come up with some example of how my "whiteness" has improved my life, made opportunities available to me, etc... I can't think of a single one.

My parents were Middle Class. My father worked hard, and so did my mother. We (my sibling and I) never really wanted for anything, except perhaps more time with our parents. Mom was always there, but my father was always working, or busy with household things.

The benefits and advantages I've had I can attribute wholly to the fact that my parents worked hard, and because of that hard work, they had the money to make sure that I was able to continute schooling if I so desired (and I did).

My parents are now divorced (that happened 15 years ago), and my mother has re-married. My Dad (not my father.. different perons. Dad is the man my Mom is married to.) also busted his ass his whole life, and, starting with $10.00 in his pocket, has built a multi-million dollar business, fighting the whole way for every dime he's made. The obstacles he's run into had nothing to do with race, color, birth, origins, or any of that triptrap.. His obstacles came from "Good-Ole-Boy-ism".

My life has been similar.. I came from a Middle Class home, went to the streets, then to college, then the Corps, then the Office World, and now, to trucking. The obstacles I've overcome are numerous, but none of them had to do with my being white, that I can tell.

However, I've lost jobs and promotions to lesser-qualified people because of their color. I've lost other opportunities because of religion, creed, orientation, and gender.

I can't think of one single obstacle or opportunity in my life that has anything to do with the fact that I'm white. (Well, OK.. I'm Irish, but that's beside the point.)

So, I ask the members of this community, do I belong here? Should I stay? Am I just an enigma in American Society? Or am I missing something?

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Poster:peaceofpie
Date:2005-06-05 15:23
Subject:i don't think we've talked about harajuku dancers yet. O.O
Security:Public
Mood: disturbed

(cross-posted from my own journal, edited a bit for non-personal-journal consumption. some added context: I'm Jewish, and "Fiddler on the Roof" is culturally important to me as a Jew. :-/)

This "Rich Girl" song that Gwen Stefani performs has garnered quite a bit of attention on my friends list in the last week, so I decided to see what the fuss was all about.

Immediate reactions:
1. OH GOD MY EARS ARE BLEEDING??
2. You just CAN'T DO THAT to FIDDLER ON THE ROOF!!
3. It's "IF I WERE A RICH WHATEVER", not "if i WAS". The conditional tense is "WERE". Not only that, but the mnemonic I learned for that rule was THIS SONG.

Now that I've got that out of the way, though, I feel like some dialogue needs to happen about the Harajuku dancers. On the one hand, the opinion I've been seeing a lot of is that it's a gross example of cultural appropriation, and that using Japanese women to make herself look cool (which, as far as I can see, IS exactly what she's doing) is bad and wrong and evil, especially in the context of this song. If you haven't heard it...she goes on and on about how she wishes she...WERE (*cough*)...rich, and then busts into this:

I'd get me four Harajuku girls to (uh huh)
Inspire me and they'd come to my rescue
I'd dress them wicked, I'd give them names (yeah)
Love, Angel, Music, Baby
Hurry up and come and save me

Then Eve shows up and starts singing about the Harajuku girls "from the hoods of Japan" and how "Stefani and her L.A.M.B rock the fetish people".

So, you can see where there might be some issues here, I think. :-/

On the other hand, though...is it also objectifying of the Japanese women for me to say that this is offensive? They're probably getting a lot of money and having a great time, and what makes me think they don't feel awesome about themselves and totally empowered? I mean, I don't like Gwen Stefani, but if I were a fan of hers and she adopted me and gave me a lot of money and made me her backup singer, I would think that was the greatest thing that ever happened. But then, I probably be offended if someone I was a huge fan of wanted me to be their backup singer, but she really just wanted me because having a short queer kid with purple hair would improve her image and make her feel better about herself. But I really don't have something to compare that experience to, because I'm NOT Japanese and I'm NOT a Harajuku dancer and I DON'T like Gwen Stefani, and maybe if all those things WERE (*cough*) true, I'd feel differently. I just have no idea.

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Poster:peaceofpie
Date:2005-06-04 00:59
Subject:
Security:Public
Mood: confused

I'm home from school for the summer, and was hanging out with my dad this evening. The conversation turned to homeless people, and I brought up the issue of classism. He seemed unfamiliar with the term...he's very well-educated, he has a Ph.D in philosophy, and I generally have a great deal of respect for his intellect...so I explained to him how the term is used now.

His response was that classism doesn't exist, because CLASS doesn't really exist.

How does one even respond to something like that?

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Poster:sparkle_shortz
Date:2005-06-03 15:13
Subject:honky wanna cracker?
Security:Public
Mood: hungry

So, further to the earlier post about the terms honky, cracker, etc., over at debunkingwhite--someone linked in that dbw thread this Tim Wise article about why those terms are not as offensive as racial slurs against POC.

Thoughts?

It occurred to me, which has come up in here earlier in our discussion of "cracker," that most slurs against whites as such are actually class-based. And while I liked Wise's article, it felt like he had made the choice to elide any discussion of class within whiteness.

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Poster:sparkle_shortz
Date:2005-05-24 13:48
Subject:Local news perpetuating racism?
Security:Public
Mood: hmmm

CRITICAL FACULTIES
Crime scenes
Does crime-happy local TV news perpetuate racism? One professor argues yes--and suggests some drastic measures to fix it.

By Christopher Shea | May 22, 2005 | The Boston Globe


EARLIER THIS MONTH, police in Long Beach, Calif., gunned downon live televisiona man who had led them on a high-speed 40-minute car chase which concluded with the driver stumbling out of his car, drawing a gun, dropping it, and seeming to reach for another. Two LA newscasts rode the chase, and the climactic shooting, to dizzying ratings heights in the 5 p.m. time slot. And the star of the grim show was a 37-year-old Hispanic man named Angel Galvan.

After Galvan's on-air death, there was the usual tsk-tsking from media critics about the voyeuristic coverage, followed by a quick return to the ''if it bleeds, it leads" school of TV news. But at least one observer in the LA area says the trouble with such spectacles goes beyond mere tastelessness: Local news shows, he argues, are doing nothing less than blocking progress in race relationsand the Federal Communications Commission is unwittingly helping them do it.

Obsessive coverage of urban crime by local television stations, UCLA law professor Jerry Kang argued in the Harvard Law Review this spring, is one of the engines driving lingering racism in the United States. Read more...Collapse )

Thoughts? I absolutely agree with his critique--and would extend it to stuff like Law & Order--but his proposed solution seems weak to me. Story ganked from illlaw.

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Poster:dirtywhiteboi
Date:2005-05-24 09:20
Subject:District Apologizes To Student Identified As 'Black Girl' In Yearbook
Security:Public

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/education/4520186/detail.html?rss=dgo&psp=nationalnews

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Poster:hoolifan
Date:2005-05-10 12:15
Subject:Save the White Proddies!
Security:Public

The Times has spewed forth a truly heartbreaking sob story about a marginalized ethnic-religious group that has been tragically left behind in the world of New York politics, and the mayoral candidate who has bravely chosen to take on a System that is stacked against him.

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Today's Loneliest Political Minority? It's Probably The the White Protestant

In New York City, where race and ethnicity often loom large in local campaigns, and where no group constitutes a majority, Gifford Miller is the mayoral candidate of a forgotten minority.

His Democratic rivals include a Hispanic Roman Catholic, a black Baptist and a Jew, giving these opponents a natural constituency that can help in the voting booth. But Mr. Miller, the City Council speaker, is the only white Anglo-Saxon Protestant in the race in a city where non-Hispanic whites account for fewer than one-third of the population.

...

Mr. Miller, an Episcopalian of Dutch, German and English extraction, readily acknowledges his pedigree, but largely discounts it. "In the end, New Yorkers, no matter what their faith, have the same concerns," he said. "They vote on the basis of who will improve their lives."

As for whether he is handicapped in raising money or political support without the broader ethnic or racial base other candidates often court, Mr. Miller replied, with a touch of humor: "I think it's very hard as a WASP to claim disadvantages. WASP's have generally done awfully well in society, so I'm not going to make any complaints."

...

This year, nobody has brandished Mr. Miller's ethnicity as a weapon against him, but he is obviously aware of his vulnerabilities (which might be one reason he has learned to sing, among other things, the Israeli national anthem in Hebrew).

"It's clear that he has a very limited natural political base," said Chris McNickle, a Ferrer supporter and author of "To Be Mayor of New York." "His candidacy has not taken off, and I think that's one of the reasons why."

(click headline for the full article, if you can stomach it: registration required.)
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How gracious of Mr. Gifford, using "humor" to downplay the forces arrayed against his candidacy.

Our fearless NYT staffer clearly knows more than the Giff can say: the coloreds, Jews, and Papists always vote for their own - it's written into their various Protocols. The Doctrine of The Natural Base, if you will. While the intrepid journalist was not able to unearth any overt examples of anti-WASP bias, his tireless efforts still manage to bring to light the virulent Hate that lurks just beneath the surface.

For example, how degrading that such a dignified, genteel fellow as the Giff is forced to learn two-bit parlor tricks like singing songs in funny languages! The WASP built America held the whip to those who built America! And now he's reduced to cheap pandering? Outrageous!

People of color, Catholics, Jews: we must unite and help lift These People out of their beleaguered, woeful state. Who's up for a fundraiser? I'll bring the foie gras!

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Poster:dirtywhiteboi
Date:2005-04-19 09:45
Subject:After 35 years on campuses, black-studies programs struggle to survive
Security:Public

http://chronicle.com/temp/reprint.php?id=0amr85w9rpi5qri0q3rr83uq1c78r6

dirt

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Poster:touchyphiliac
Date:2005-04-18 05:47
Subject:Cracker toes
Security:Public

I once* had a stepmother who insisted upon calling Brazil Nuts "N----- toes." I knew it was a common enough moniker in some places, but it had never been acceptable in my family. In protest, I renamed Macadamia Nuts "Cracker toes."


* I'm sure she's still probably my stepmother, but I sure haven't talked to her in years.

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Poster:seaya
Date:2005-04-16 21:59
Subject:I fell into a deep and cavernous navel...
Security:Public
Mood:navel-y

http://www.pauahtun.org/Tiffany.web.html

"Tiffany, Friend of People of Color: White Investments in Anti-Racism"

The way she organized the article is giving me a headache.....she did it on purpose though, I think.

Anyhow, I forget who I got this from...if you know...let me know so I can edit and thank the person.

A choice quote:

Over time, ritualized prostrations and libations may change in style, but their function remains unaltered. A few years ago, white feminist researchers routinely included a disclaimer in the introductions to their books saying, in effect, "Because I am a white, middle-class, middle-aged, able-bodied, Catholic-raised, heterosexual, widowed, slender, fourth-generation Italian mother of two, the research in this volume reflects the cultural limitations of that perspective."

Huge guffaws.

Mmm, navelly.

I am still forming impressions of it...initial impression is...this is very academic-y. But I am trying to apply it to the experience of being a white grade school teacher whose students are 90% of color in a 90% white rural school district. ;)

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